""I feel OK," Maron answered. "I feel like I'm sort of ready for the break, but there is sort of a fear there, of what do I do now? I'm busy. But, not unlike your job ... I've got a lot of people who over the last 16 years have grown to rely on me.""
""It became clear that the guest we needed to have was singular," Maron said, "in that he could address the importance of this being our final episode, but also address how we move through the world we're living in, as frightening as it is.""
""You've still got a couple of chapters left," Obama said. "Don't rush into what the next thing is. Take a beat. Take some satisfaction looking backwards.""
Barack Obama returned to Marc Maron's podcast for its final episode, joining the host who launched the program in a Los Angeles garage 16 years ago. The appearance reinforced the podcast's cultural significance after Obama previously invited Maron to Washington while still in office. Maron expressed mixed feelings about ending a long-running project, acknowledging readiness and fear about the next steps and responsibilities to listeners. Maron selected a singular guest to address both the finale and how to navigate a frightening world. Obama advised pausing before pursuing the next chapter and taking satisfaction in past accomplishments.
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