""I do a lot of talking about how I feel about the world, both interior and exterior; micro, macro; what's going on in me, how am I reacting to what's going on in the world," Maron said in his intro. "And it became clear that the guest we needed to have was singular. In that he could address the importance of this being our final episode, but also address how we move through the world we're living in, as frightening as it is, with what's happening.""
""I feel OK," Maron replied. "I feel like I'm sort of ready for the break, but there is sort of a fear there, of what do I do now? I'm busy. But, not unlike your job ... I've got a lot of people who over the last 16 years have grown to rely on me.""
Barack Obama appeared on Marc Maron's final WTF episode, marking their first conversation in ten years. Maron framed his podcasting as a space for interior and exterior reflections and sought a singular guest for the final show. Obama acknowledged public concerns about rising authoritarianism but emphasized that American history improves when people stand up and reject extremes. Maron admitted mixed emotions about ending the show and a sense of responsibility toward listeners. Obama compared that responsibility to presidential duties and counseled Maron to take a beat, savor his accomplishments, and reflect on his body of work.
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