Dining across the divide: He is very anti-Trump. I think he's a deal-maker with a business mindset'
Briefly

Gavin's perception of Trump's presidency reflects a nuance, recognizing his brashness while maintaining that historical judgement may see him as a middling president.
A motorbike accident profoundly impacted Steve’s life, marking a moment of being technically dead for a minute, which surprisingly he recalls waking up well rested.
Steve and Gavin discussed their shared rural backgrounds and how their political views were shaped by growing up in less diverse communities.
Their dining experience reflected their personalities, with Steve's initial aversion to burrata contrasting Gavin's sober choice of soda water, revealing deeper personal preferences.
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